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And the tinhats get vindication: Spy satellites, Turned on the US by the US
Revva |
Jan 28 2008, 07:56 AM
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![]() Bedside Kleenex Box Group: Member Posts: 89 Joined: 5-August 07 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 28270 |
Jeez... I'm paranoid now and I'm not even American.
By the way, tell your father he's cool. -------------------- [I've got nothing to say, and by God I'm going to say it.]
["There is no weird, just lack of understanding" - James Law.] A pitch black room, silent for all but what is made inside it. Where you let go of your senses, and no one can judge you. QUOTE(georgieporgie @ Apr 5 2007, 03:00 PM) You're an idiot. You've contradicted yourself at least twice in a single post, and you've come across as an asshole. QUOTE(TastyBabySoup @ Feb 13 2008, 01:26 AM) |
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Cataclysmic Beefstick |
Jan 28 2008, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(Afghanistan Banana Stand @ Jan 27 2008, 08:33 PM) So if you don't think the government will follow you around and snoop with almost little or no evidence think again. They could know everything about you. Are you kidding me. I've heard that they have Camera's in the airports that have facial recognition software that is hooked up to CIA computers. Although this could be a load of bullocks. They know more than you think. I think it's only natural to be paranoid at this point. The CIA does not spy on American citizens. It's not in their mandate. Also, the U.S. gov't knows all about me thanks to numerous background checks. Trust me, they don't want anyone with felonies on their record, and they certainly don't want former criminals getting access to military materiel. The things they want to know just to let me operate a cash register are over the top. So I'm not surprised that they would investigate the situation, but I'd be very surprised if they actually used planes to look for bombs around this guy's property. More likely, it was a threat to get him to flinch under pressure. -------------------- "...You can't see anything from a car; you've got to get out of the goddamned contraption and walk, better yet crawl, on hands and knees, over the sandstone and through the thornbush and cactus. When traces of blood begin to mark your trail you'll see something, maybe. Probably not." Edward Abbey
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Afghanistan Banana Stand |
Jan 29 2008, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(Cataclysmic Beefstick @ Jan 28 2008, 05:19 PM) The CIA does not spy on American citizens. It's not in their mandate. Also, the U.S. gov't knows all about me thanks to numerous background checks. Trust me, they don't want anyone with felonies on their record, and they certainly don't want former criminals getting access to military materiel. The things they want to know just to let me operate a cash register are over the top. So I'm not surprised that they would investigate the situation, but I'd be very surprised if they actually used planes to look for bombs around this guy's property. More likely, it was a threat to get him to flinch under pressure. I was anticipating this reply but your right I concede your point it's possible either way. -------------------- |
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QuelForlor |
Jan 29 2008, 09:49 AM
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Carpal Tunnel Slug Group: Member Posts: 449 Joined: 4-October 07 Member No.: 31417 |
So that was an interesting story.
But my point remains valid. Spy satilites can only see into public areas (exception being skylights, which I'm not sure how I'm going to hang curtains on). The bomb detecting planes that they were using search for chemicals that are being omitted to outside the house/property, and thus are legal to search. Was it a huge waste of taxpayer money trying to screw an innocent man, sure. But privacy was only invaded when they broke into your dad's storage area. The person that wrote the warrent overshot his bounds (probably unknowingly), and the tenant was in no condition to be believed that it wasn't his stuff. I'm glad to hear that your father was cleared, and the lawsuit won (though it's minor compensation for the trouble put through and the heirlooms lost). I also hope that homeland security learned a lesson, though probably not. -------------------- I do not spell well and I have poor grammer. For this I apologize.
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Sturmrabe |
Jan 12 2009, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(Afghanistan Banana Stand @ Jan 27 2008, 09:33 PM) I will give you a perfect example of what the government will do even if they have no evidence and only suspect you. So heres what happened my father was a landlord and he had a tenant living in his house. The house was remodeled and fixed up and zoned as a duplex. My father made the mistake of not checking in on the tenant and making regular inspections on the property. My father didn't even live in the house. Now I do have to mention that my father is an ex-hells angel and he used to be on the top 10 most wanted list in Colorado for running one of the biggest Chop Shops in America - He never went to jail because he never got caught and 30 years ago when he was wanted statute of limitations laws were different. So he escaped justice by staying out of the laws hands and therefore legally was vindicated. This was all before I was born mind you. He turned his life around and started working for the government. Such places as the Rocky Mountain Arsenal and Rocky Flats which is a place that made bombs during the cold war. He know works for Halliburton. (*The Shame*) Back on the track. One day his tenant took some coke flipped out ran outside and punched the window out on some girls vehicle as she was driving by. The police were called and they had to get a warrant to get the dude out. Turns out he was growing Marijuana. My father was using the other half of the house as storage. The police ransacked both houses and confiscated my fathers most valuable possessions (Including Gold coins that my grandfather passed down - never to be seen again) But what happened next might shock you. The DA instead of going after the Tenant for growing went after my dad claiming that he was the ring leader of a major drug operation. With old receipts of a backhoe from over 20 years before and plans he had used to dig up Seran Gas Containers at the Rocky Mountain Arsenal they concluded that he had also dug up bombs stole them and buried them under a house he had previously owned years before he ever got the job at the Arsenal. But they never went to the arsenal to check their theory they just assumed. Due to government policy he wasn't allowed to work for the govt. during the period of the investigation so he essentially lost his job and his pay. He was also ordered not to go within 1 mile of the house. He was also forced by law to sell his house and give half to the city. Not to mention a long legal battle with expensive legal costs. Also if they would have looked at the date on the Backhoe receipt they would have realized their logic was flawed. WTF mates. What happened next is crazy. They got homeland security on his ass and they were coming around asking questions. Not only that they let him know about the bomb detecting airplanes that they were flying over his old house looking for bombs. I wonder how much this cost our Tax Payers. Than one day the DA offered the tenant a plea bargain in order to convict my father they wanted him to testify against my father. That was when the dude said something to the likes of. Hell no I'm not testifying against an innocent man. Apparently the judge was convinced by the DA that my father was a terrorist and upon hearing this testimony he was flabbergasted. The DA lost his position and was demoted. The Tenant served some time in jail and my father filed suit against the city and won a major court case against the city of and county of Denver. We don't know what happened with the Homeland Security Investigation but we assume it was dismissed with the other case. But I think Homeland security should have double checked the evidence and made sure the cops did a good job. So can we really trust Homeland Security to do a good job at checking facts concerning actual terrorists? So if you don't think the government will follow you around and snoop with almost little or no evidence think again. They could know everything about you. Are you kidding me. I've heard that they have Camera's in the airports that have facial recognition software that is hooked up to CIA computers. Although this could be a load of bullocks. They know more than you think. I think it's only natural to be paranoid at this point. I hate it when this kind of thing is the last post on a page, I stopped following what was going on cause I missed this... -------------------- QUOTE(Hugh Laurie) Hugh, who divides his time between his Hollywood pad and family home in London, said: “I’ve been at home playing piano in my underpants.” |
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theX |
Jan 12 2009, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(QuelForlor @ Oct 4 2007, 09:22 AM) The skylight is the only thing your going to have to worry about. Word of advice, get it fogged or glazed. This is no different then placing cameras at intersections or arround ATMs. It decreases the amount of manpower required to watch a given area. It doesn't infringe on civil liberties as they can only see whats in "plain view", although I can see where your concern is coming from. There is a difference between a camera on an ATM and a camera on a satellite. A satellite camera would be much more high tech, plus there would be very little that could be done as far as checking up on and regulating it's use. It seems innocent, but we still have to be careful. -------------------- ![]() |
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