MetalFire |
Apr 24 2007, 04:04 PM
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![]() Grease Magnet Group: Member Posts: 48 Joined: 13-March 05 From: NB, Canada Member No.: 241 |
Ever since someone discovered how to download a song for FREE, record companies and bands have gone broke and are heading straight for it. I'll admit I rarely download, but only if I can't find the record. I don't buy on the net. I still buy CD's whenever I can to support the band financially since money is what helps them make new records and new tours. As good as helping bands are....well, what do you think of the whole downloading thing?
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KingThomasIV |
Apr 24 2007, 04:28 PM
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![]() :iceburn: Group: Member Posts: 506 Joined: 27-March 05 From: Kingdom of Someland Member No.: 3078 |
QUOTE(MetalFire @ Apr 24 2007, 06:04 PM) Ever since someone discovered how to download a song for FREE, record companies and bands have gone broke and are heading straight for it. I'll admit I rarely download, but only if I can't find the record. I don't buy on the net. I still buy CD's whenever I can to support the band financially since money is what helps them make new records and new tours. As good as helping bands are....well, what do you think of the whole downloading thing? The big companies and the big bands are the only ones who have really complained. Smaller companies, and especially smaller bands have, through all of my experience, been pro-free-downloading content to a certain extent. While their support varies from only clips, (which now is a policy the larger companies have come to support,) downloading only a song or two, or downloading a whole album for free varies from company to company and artist to artist. Most artists initially run their own show and attempt to make it on their own, though a large portion fail. They then have to turn to larger companies to help produce and distribute their stuff, in turn "selling their souls." It is only recently since the advent of the internet and P2P networks that the ratio has shifted noticably more toward "indie" artists. Many fans only find these artists through the internet and most artists know that. The artists already signed to huge labels are influenced by their labels, since the labels are now almost purely to make money through sales. If they could get away with not hosting shows, then they would, but they know that withdrawing from a band known for their tours would be a bad idea, since many fans would be upset. However, it is a common policy to drop acts known for being terrible live, and occasionally just being "mediocre." Sponsoring large shows for everyone they sign is generally too risky an investment, except in the case of a fesitval, where they have a captive audience and can get a bunch of extra revenue through on-site sales. As for myself, I am in full support of downloading, provided the artist gets compensation in a timely fashion. If I download an album, I'll listen to it, make a note of whether or not I should spend money on it, and keep it around for a week or two. At the end of that, I'll either purchase it or not, but either way, it gets deleted. I must admit, having an Excell sheet for purchasing [albums] is one of the wisest things you can do if you collect [music]... -------------------- My apologies to those with the ABS Default Skin
Often, you miss the other half. My apologies to those with the IPB Default Skin Often, you need not the other half. philpharted: Why do you always hide your text? Is it so n00bs don't learn the secrets of life? It is for the Greater Good. ...Just like everything else. |
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the pillory |
Apr 24 2007, 04:36 PM
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![]() epic battle over all virtual terrain Group: Member Posts: 8893 Joined: 13-March 05 From: Albrrrrta Member No.: 208 |
Bands, whether they be underground, indie or mainstream, make alot of money touring.
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Walt Disney |
Apr 24 2007, 04:41 PM
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![]() Best New Member Group: Sheepie Winner - 2007 Posts: 1160 Joined: 5-April 07 From: United States of America Member No.: 24657 |
I usually only download album advances and recent releases from independent labels, and then go out and purchase the ones that I liked. But I heard most artists see very little money from album sales, so sometimes I'll pass on the album and pick up merchandise when I see them live.
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Hal Jordan |
Apr 24 2007, 05:22 PM
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![]() Backseat Moderator Group: Member Posts: 4859 Joined: 23-October 05 From: Space Sector 2814 Member No.: 7907 |
I download a lot of music, but usually if I lke what I hear I try to actually buy it later.
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Blue Streak |
Apr 24 2007, 05:24 PM
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![]() Skinny Punk Kid Group: Member Posts: 5362 Joined: 21-March 05 From: Hiram, Ohio Member No.: 2224 |
I play a little game called "everything is free on the internet". Hooray pirating, ARGH!
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MetalFire |
Apr 24 2007, 07:12 PM
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![]() Grease Magnet Group: Member Posts: 48 Joined: 13-March 05 From: NB, Canada Member No.: 241 |
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Quicksilver |
Apr 24 2007, 07:14 PM
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techno is teh roXXorz!!! Group: Sheepie Winner - 2005 Posts: 4625 Joined: 13-March 05 From: Perth, Australia Member No.: 68 |
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Wanderer from Ys |
Apr 24 2007, 08:15 PM
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![]() Hour Hero Yes Group: Member Posts: 13387 Joined: 13-March 05 From: VA Member No.: 80 |
Where most people download what they can't find to buy, I buy what I can't find to download.
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BIGFAGGOT666 |
Apr 24 2007, 08:33 PM
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![]() My name is stupid and so am I. Group: Sheepie Winner - 2008 Posts: 2237 Joined: 30-August 05 Member No.: 7122 |
QUOTE(MetalFire @ Apr 24 2007, 08:12 PM) 400 SONGS HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE TO FIT ONTO A COMPUTER -------------------- ![]() ![]() |
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since1989 |
Apr 24 2007, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(ANGERMETAL666 @ Apr 24 2007, 09:33 PM) What would I do without your sarcasm? -------------------- ![]() |
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the pillory |
Apr 24 2007, 08:50 PM
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![]() epic battle over all virtual terrain Group: Member Posts: 8893 Joined: 13-March 05 From: Albrrrrta Member No.: 208 |
My entire CD collection is probably 800 songs : \
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AudioBlood |
Apr 24 2007, 09:01 PM
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![]() The Boy who blocked his own shot Group: Member Posts: 2519 Joined: 13-March 05 Member No.: 150 |
QUOTE(MetalFire @ Apr 24 2007, 09:12 PM) OH WOW>>>>> my cd collection wound up to be around 1000 songs. but i have close to 6000 on iTunes -------------------- |
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Walt Disney |
Apr 24 2007, 09:46 PM
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![]() Best New Member Group: Sheepie Winner - 2007 Posts: 1160 Joined: 5-April 07 From: United States of America Member No.: 24657 |
I like to keep my library underneath 2,000 files. Every so often I'll do some cleaning and delete old stuff.
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faber |
Apr 24 2007, 11:28 PM
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![]() Awsoma Power! Group: Member Posts: 4930 Joined: 13-March 05 Member No.: 287 |
I download and burn most of my CD's. I generally only buy albums that are exceptionally good or are greatest hits compilations.
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rmuser |
Apr 25 2007, 12:08 AM
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![]() No Flaw Goes Unnoticed Group: Sheepie Winner - 2007 Posts: 3092 Joined: 2-April 05 Member No.: 4230 |
QUOTE(MetalFire @ Apr 24 2007, 04:04 PM) Ever since someone discovered how to download a song for FREE, record companies and bands have gone broke and are heading straight for it. No. They. Aren't. Filesharing has actually increased record sales, and if any artists are going broke it's BECAUSE OF the record companies which take most of the money they make. If you really want to support an artist, mail them $20. It'll help them more than buying a CD. |
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AudioBlood |
Apr 25 2007, 05:57 AM
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![]() The Boy who blocked his own shot Group: Member Posts: 2519 Joined: 13-March 05 Member No.: 150 |
QUOTE(Walt Disney @ Apr 24 2007, 11:46 PM) I like to keep my library underneath 2,000 files. Every so often I'll do some cleaning and delete old stuff. i love my music too much for that, my libraries around 4800 and the only things i ever delete are videos, documents, software, and images. -------------------- |
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Rudolph |
Apr 25 2007, 02:15 PM
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Kvlt Wizardz Group: Member Posts: 1995 Joined: 15-October 06 From: Location. Member No.: 19735 |
In the metal community, downloading is supported because it's the only way to hear about bands.
Extreme metal genres get no radio time, no promotional campaigns, nothing. Word-of-mouth and internet promotion is the only thing that gets a band heard. -------------------- |
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Hal Jordan |
Apr 25 2007, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(Rudolph @ Apr 25 2007, 02:15 PM) Extreme metal genres get no radio time, no promotional campaigns, nothing. Word-of-mouth and internet promotion is the only thing that gets a band heard. Except the metal channel on Music Choice. But that's only if you get those channels. -------------------- ![]() |
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Walt Disney |
Apr 25 2007, 08:20 PM
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![]() Best New Member Group: Sheepie Winner - 2007 Posts: 1160 Joined: 5-April 07 From: United States of America Member No.: 24657 |
I hate those Music Choice channels.
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Obscurity |
Apr 25 2007, 08:34 PM
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![]() Forum Video Gamer Group: Member Posts: 1472 Joined: 14-March 05 From: Currently Orlando, Florida for college. Member No.: 699 |
I almost always buy an album if I download it and like it. I shudder to think what shit I could be listening to without the help of the Interwebs.
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RazerMurdoch |
Apr 25 2007, 08:54 PM
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![]() Sapere Aude Group: Sheepie Winner - 2008 Posts: 5248 Joined: 13-March 05 From: Pen-sill-vein-ya Member No.: 109 |
QUOTE(Obscurity @ Apr 25 2007, 09:34 PM) I agree with this. If I didn't download music, the good bands would never get my support. However, I find it a waste to buy from major labels, since they suck most of any profit the band could make from the sale. I do buy a lot of albums, but I download far more. -------------------- |
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Walt Disney |
Apr 25 2007, 09:02 PM
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![]() Best New Member Group: Sheepie Winner - 2007 Posts: 1160 Joined: 5-April 07 From: United States of America Member No.: 24657 |
I try not to listen to bands on major labels.
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Apr 25 2007, 09:33 PM
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![]() Funky Monk Group: Sheepie Winner - 2007 Posts: 3107 Joined: 21-March 05 Member No.: 2281 |
QUOTE(Walt Disney @ Apr 25 2007, 10:02 PM) That is just stupid. -------------------- |
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Walt Disney |
Apr 25 2007, 09:37 PM
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![]() Best New Member Group: Sheepie Winner - 2007 Posts: 1160 Joined: 5-April 07 From: United States of America Member No.: 24657 |
How so?
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Wanderer from Ys |
Apr 26 2007, 06:31 AM
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![]() Hour Hero Yes Group: Member Posts: 13387 Joined: 13-March 05 From: VA Member No.: 80 |
QUOTE(Walt Disney @ Apr 25 2007, 10:37 PM) You're limiting yourself. Just because a band is on a major label doesn't mean they're bad (even if they are most of the time). I would understand if you try not to BUY music from bands on major record labels. -------------------- http://alltern8.com/members/#/blog.asp?Profile=27660
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Walt Disney |
Apr 26 2007, 08:26 AM
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![]() Best New Member Group: Sheepie Winner - 2007 Posts: 1160 Joined: 5-April 07 From: United States of America Member No.: 24657 |
I've not had much success with bands on major labels, and so it usually seems like a waste of time to check out those bands annat. You know what I'm saying?
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AudioBlood |
Apr 26 2007, 08:50 AM
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![]() The Boy who blocked his own shot Group: Member Posts: 2519 Joined: 13-March 05 Member No.: 150 |
but whats your idea of mainstream?
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Cataclysmic Beefstick |
Apr 26 2007, 02:27 PM
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:iceburn: Group: Member Posts: 835 Joined: 13-March 05 From: It's complicated. Member No.: 98 |
My opinion about illegal downloading is that it is illegal.
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BUDDY |
Apr 26 2007, 02:46 PM
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![]() I has a crayon Group: Sheepie Winner - 2008 Posts: 3568 Joined: 28-May 06 From: SCRLNA Member No.: 13426 |
I don't think you can get in trouble for downloading something if it's made public to you. I'm not sure about that. It's certainly illegal to distribute it, though.
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